6370 upvotes, 53 direct replies (showing 25)
I mean, it was obvious to me that “Roe is an important precedent” and “I will not overturn Roe” are very much not the same statement. Was this not obvious to literally everybody else?
Comment by CodyCAJ at 24/06/2022 at 15:14 UTC
1845 upvotes, 7 direct replies
This point is so obvious, I can’t believe other people don’t recognize this.
Comment by smoothVroom21 at 24/06/2022 at 15:58 UTC
142 upvotes, 2 direct replies
I mean, did anyone on either side hear that at the time and go "they mean they won't overturn it"?
If you did, look around the room for the dummy. There they are, right over there in that shiny picture on the wall.
Comment by TheAskewOne at 24/06/2022 at 16:52 UTC
30 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It's doesn't matter, you know? Because if she had promised to overturn Roe, Republicans still would have confirmed her. It's not like that Susan Collins *really* cared. All she wanted was an excuse.
Comment by serpentinepad at 24/06/2022 at 16:11 UTC
18 upvotes, 3 direct replies
No kidding. This was trotted out when the leak happened and everyone went nuts then too. Does anyone bother watching the video?
Comment by frezik at 24/06/2022 at 15:57 UTC
41 upvotes, 3 direct replies
It's obvious to everyone except Diane Feinstein.
Comment by [deleted] at 24/06/2022 at 16:27 UTC
16 upvotes, 1 direct replies
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Comment by sunburntdick at 24/06/2022 at 18:09 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
A good judge will consider it as precident
I sure noticed how one of them implied he was a bad judge.
Comment by rebelintellectual at 24/06/2022 at 16:11 UTC
26 upvotes, 4 direct replies
Lying is a sin Amy.
Comment by 6thReplacementMonkey at 24/06/2022 at 18:19 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It's still important to make it obvious that they are weasels.
Comment by adelie42 at 24/06/2022 at 16:13 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Yes it should be.
Inho, part of the problem here is that criticism about messaging and strategy is often taken as an attack on the position itself. Here, OP is being dishonest about what happened and what was said. But why? To influence who to do what? Imho it is only an argument people might circle jerk. That might feel good, but it doesn't move things in the direction OP supposedly may want things to go.
Also, if this argument got traction and people are willing to look into it, it will end up exposed as a lie.
And the entire movement (from this specific position) will age like milk.
Comment by SeeTough-1492 at 24/06/2022 at 17:23 UTC
6 upvotes, 1 direct replies
So glad this is up voted to the top
It's rare on reddit for facts to trump desired narrative
Comment by oneplusandroidpie at 24/06/2022 at 16:35 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
No honor amongst killers and thieves.
Comment by nighthawk_something at 24/06/2022 at 17:29 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
“Roe is an important precedent”
The complete statement is: “Roe is an important precedent that stands in the way of everything I believe in and therefore I must stop at nothing to overturn Roe (if my husband allows me"
Comment by [deleted] at 24/06/2022 at 16:31 UTC
0 upvotes, 1 direct replies
WHy are we under the impression these people will not just say whatever they have to say? The truth means nothing when you are placed illegitimately into power.
Comment by PolygonMan at 24/06/2022 at 17:23 UTC
0 upvotes, 0 direct replies
"Yes, these Supreme Court nominees obviously worked hard to deliberately mislead the American public during the nomination process. Did no one else notice that?"
The point is that they're SUPREME COURT JUSTICES who were DELIBERATELY TRYING TO MISLEAD THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. Do you not understand how absolutely fucked that is? The outrage is 100% justified. This profoundly undermines the legitimacy of the court.
Comment by WilliamWaters at 24/06/2022 at 17:30 UTC
0 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Stop making since im here for clickbait and to rage
Comment by sixblackgeese at 24/06/2022 at 16:51 UTC
-2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
People cannot think logically about this. This is why SCOTUS is not elected.
Comment by Astronopolis at 24/06/2022 at 15:54 UTC
-5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
The objective is to interpret our constitution, not to play favorites to political or social media sway. I would read the argument before crying foul.
Comment by Mr_Stillian at 24/06/2022 at 17:01 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
This is very true - they technically didn't lie (for the most part). It also should completely debunk any notion that the Supreme Court is apolitical when they answered those questions in a totally deceptive, political manner for purposes of confirmation.
I actually think the most damning thing in here is Thomas saying he believes in a constitutional right to privacy. Given his concurrence, it's very obvious that was legitimately a total fucking lie. Obviously impossible to get him on perjury for his "belief" though.
Comment by faovnoiaewjod at 24/06/2022 at 17:05 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Yeah it's an important precedent for them to overturn.
Comment by judokalinker at 24/06/2022 at 17:06 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Because people are dumb. They had strategic answers there were specifically meant to offer no information on whether or not they would uphold/overrule precedent, just that it was precedent. It's a non-answer.
Comment by [deleted] at 24/06/2022 at 17:09 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
All I know is these people will lie to your face to get power and not think twice about it.
Comment by JagmeetSingh2 at 24/06/2022 at 17:15 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Remember what Susan Collins did lmao
Comment by [deleted] at 24/06/2022 at 17:15 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Exactly my thoughts. People just cannot understand weasel words anymore.
Comment by GroblyOverrated at 24/06/2022 at 17:18 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
What?