Comment by 00rb on 19/01/2025 at 19:27 UTC*

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View submission: On what women want

This was a well written essay and I appreciate its contribution to the discourse, but it really feels like we're reinventing paternalism from first principles here.

Feminists will say this is a bad thing, and I used to consider myself one. Honestly, now when I'm on dates I go in with the assumption that women want what women have always traditionally wanted: a nice man to protect and take care of them. And who will commit to them (if THEY want that -- honestly I feel like women are the gatekeepers for long term relationships more than people acknowledge).

I don't begrudge them or society for that but I feel if you read the discourse you just walk away feeling more confused about gender stuff.

This is the kind of post people downvote because they disagree with it, but my dating life has improved dramatically since taking this attitude. Women want it so clearly.

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Comment by SilverMedal4Life at 19/01/2025 at 21:51 UTC

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I mean, I've had the opposite experience as you. A collaborative approach to relationships where both parties are equals has seen the most success on my end, and in particular, is how things are run in my committed long-term relationship.

Certainly women enjoy being charmed and being taken care of, but that's true for everyone - everyone like to be taken care of sometimes, and everyone likes to take care of other people sometimes, too.

Comment by gotimas at 21/01/2025 at 16:50 UTC

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For sure, I learned that I have to treat others nicely and stay the fuck away from ANY discussion on relationships or gender dynamics, it never helps anyone involved.