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How was I rude?
Here's the enlisted oath:
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Here's the officer oath:
I ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
The UCMJ isn't going to protect you in the moment. It didn't do a lot of good when the military forced everyone to get the anthrax vaccine. The objectors were discharged, sometimes with less than honorable discharges.
The same thing happened with COVID vaccines.
I'm the moment, you'll have to make a choice. As someone else noted, if your Divo or CO gives the orders - the choice to disobey this orders may be incredibly difficult.
And, again, there are a lot of people that will see following this orders as being within their interpretation of their oath.
Comment by pectah at 04/12/2024 at 05:25 UTC
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You were talking down to me with the off-hand comments that didn't add anything to the conversation. Talk to me like a person. I'm stressed about this too, and waiting for this rodeo to happen is not fun. I just want to relieve some people who are tumbling down that hill to panic town and let them know that the military should not be feared by American citizens.
The terminations for not taking the vaccines are about mission readiness. When we go through our deployment lines we have to have medical sign-off on us and that means all of our shots to make sure we don't catch something preventable and grind everything to a standstill.
The UCMJ is something that isn't perfect because it's up to the judgment of superior officers and instead of being innocent until proven guilty, it's like guilty until proven innocent. When it comes down to it, Trump will not be in there forever, but he is going to do damage, and if it comes down to a person on trial for ignoring an order to shoot civilians because they were using their First Amendment right, we gotta trust that the system will hold.
Back in 2004 when the tsunami hit Indonesia my unit was asked if people wanted to volunteer their time to help those people in need half a world away, and when they asked, everyone, and I mean everyone stepped forward to help people who weren't even Americans. It's something that I'll remember for the rest of my life and I trust that there are people in the military right now who will do the right thing because it's good.