Comment by knotse on 26/11/2024 at 18:23 UTC

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A very interesting article, and one written along lines which I have traversed; thanks for posting.

I have at various times decried the bizarre attempts in my country to outlaw 'conversion therapy', not as a specific therapeutic, but as an end goal for any kind of treatment; this is both wretchedly illiberal and absurdly unjustifiable (if it were done for reasons of essentialism, it would also have prohibited sex-change operations).

But there is an aspect of the line of thought here which I would query: why the obsession with lust? The most intimate, meaningful friendships and even loves (see Lewis' *Four Loves*) I have experienced, and that I have observed in others, were not a matter of - would even have been sullied by - the urge for 'a bloody good rogering'!

But perhaps there could be an advantage in removing such intrusive urges where they are unwanted and serve to interfere with an otherwise promising relationship.

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Comment by caveatlector73 at 26/11/2024 at 19:09 UTC

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I don't disagree that relationships are not just a matter of bodily urges, but I would ask how people would feel about conversation therapy for heterosexuals? If it were that easy to change why not? If an argument is to be made that people should not change the innate would that not cut both ways?

Or maybe we should all be penguins.

Comment by sstiel at 26/11/2024 at 19:24 UTC

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The thing is, how could it become possible in our lifetimes?