created by Vagottszemu on 24/01/2025 at 09:10 UTC*
184 upvotes, 31 top-level comments (showing 25)
Hi guys, I’ve been a Challenger player since Set 9, and this is my guide on how to play the Visionary comp.
Here’s my tactics.tools[1] profile: https://tactics.tools/player/euw/V%C3%A1gott[2][3] (lolchess: https://lolchess.gg/profile/euw/V%C3%A1gott-TFT1/set13[4])
2: https://tactics.tools/player/euw/V%C3%A1gott
3: https://tactics.tools/player/euw/V%C3%A1gott
4: https://lolchess.gg/profile/euw/V%C3%A1gott-TFT1/set13
I’ve been forcing this comp since yesterday on my smurf account, achieving an average placement of 2.6. Here’s how you can play it effectively:
1. **Emblem Priority**: This comp shines when you have a Visionary emblem. Without it, it’s more of a mid-tier comp, but with the emblem, it’s an S-tier option.
2. **Malzahar Requirement**: The comp revolves around Malzahar. You need to hit him for it to work properly. Fortunately, it’s quite easy because the comp is extremely stable at level 8, even without secret positioning strategies.
3. **Synergy and Healing**: Running 6 Visionary units provides significant healing. After Malzahar casts his abilities a few times and Heimerdinger dies, your Nunu will free himself and heal massively from Malzahar’s damage-over-time effects.
4. **Level 8 Strategy**: Until you find Malzahar, position Nunu as a frontliner and use Heimerdinger as your primary carry. Once Malzahar is added, prioritize him over Heimerdinger (Malzahar 1-star > Heimerdinger 2-star).
Here’s an example of the board/positioning with an emblem:
Have fun climbing, and good luck! ❤️
Comment by ReReReverie at 24/01/2025 at 09:41 UTC
145 upvotes, 2 direct replies
so your telling me the strat is "Death by nunu"?
Comment by 1RLegend at 24/01/2025 at 09:19 UTC
60 upvotes, 1 direct replies
The nunu behind heimer is cool what’s the reason on doing that
Comment by kalex33 at 24/01/2025 at 10:03 UTC
50 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I have learned from the sorc tech to screenshot this asap.
You can go delete now ty!
Comment by AshenLilacs at 24/01/2025 at 09:34 UTC
21 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Fun concept, some questions, or suggestions to flush out the guide:
- Augment choices outside of Emblem (econ, combat?)
- We are shown the end result, information on how you got there and what you prioritize early would help players to test this out.
- Link to your smurf's profile where we can look and see how it fares in different lobbies.
Comment by bcf623 at 24/01/2025 at 16:02 UTC
17 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Secret tech just load in with visionary spat, malzahar, and nunu 3
Comment by fittpassword at 24/01/2025 at 12:09 UTC
12 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Who do you put the emblem on? Elise?
Comment by ChildhoodOptimal6347 at 24/01/2025 at 18:45 UTC
9 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Just tried this out, worked one round, lost every other one with malz2, had the bright idea of frontlining nunu and tht seemed to do better lol
Comment by Jomolemon at 24/01/2025 at 14:18 UTC*
28 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Am I stupid for thinking this doesnt even seem good? Like on paper it sounds plausible but you have your 3 item tank stuck on your backline, the entire teams just gonna get wiped before Malz even stacks no? Not to mention Nunu is bad as a tank, I would really love to be proven wrong though since this seems kinda fun.
Comment by lostmymainagain123 at 24/01/2025 at 11:32 UTC
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Is there some godlike tech taking the spatula and slow cooker anomaly in this comp? feel like it would work
Comment by maddog367 at 24/01/2025 at 23:40 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
just tried it and whole lobby had swain / elise / rell contested. went 8th lmao.
I like the idea of 6 visionary but this comp is too contested to be reliable/replicable
Comment by FAATstudio at 24/01/2025 at 23:59 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Tried this went 4th hit/high rolled everything and malz 2, it's pretty mid lol
Comment by Compromisee at 24/01/2025 at 10:38 UTC
8 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I think the important question is, what rank is your smurf account?
Strong fundamentals and a general slower pace of gameplay let's you set yourself up for some wild late games in anything plat or lower.
I didn't realise smurfing was that big of a difference until I tried it a few times and got 1st like 4 games in a row with a forced build that I struggled to top 4 on my main
Comment by Tak3000 at 24/01/2025 at 16:18 UTC
4 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I just tried this and went 2nd in Plat, but I'm having trouble getting the "trapped Nunu" thing to work. By the time the character blocking Nunu in dies, the enemy's frontline will swarm nunu and Malz, making Malz die to AoE. For this reason I just frontlined Nunu which also worked. Did you have the same issue/what would be a solution?
Cheers
Comment by fapacunter at 24/01/2025 at 15:07 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Just tried it and finished in 8th lol
tbf it was a prismatic lobby and I had 30 hp when I finally got into level 8
Comment by Sad-Shoe-8227 at 25/01/2025 at 02:33 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
tried it now, got 1st
Comment by ThaToastman at 24/01/2025 at 13:41 UTC
4 upvotes, 2 direct replies
With this strat, is there any reason to even use nunu?
Nunu as a tank sucks. His ability is quite poor and hes slightly contested due to urgot and twitch boatds.
Why not just use blitz here instead?? No one is playing automata without RFC noct and blitz is a better tank esp with automata.
Smthn like
Core: Noct blitz ammumu malz Visions: heim, morg, nunu, rell, (vex/renata if no spat) Flex: kog if auto+1, elise < rumble if vision spat
Comment by Complete_Challenge_5 at 24/01/2025 at 09:29 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
please just delete this and never post again.
Comment by Mizerawa at 24/01/2025 at 12:12 UTC
1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Does Gunblade work even after Malzahar dies?
Comment by iblooszup at 24/01/2025 at 12:48 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
What anomaly do you take?
Comment by fantasygod777 at 24/01/2025 at 14:04 UTC
1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Does this work with the new 6 visionary change?
Comment by Zerochl at 24/01/2025 at 15:16 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Thanks, now you can delete it
Comment by bully_me_latinas at 24/01/2025 at 18:45 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
You cheeky monster
Comment by bully_me_latinas at 24/01/2025 at 18:45 UTC
1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Is there a way to hit visionary emblem consistently (or any emblem)
Comment by Carvisshades at 25/01/2025 at 00:42 UTC
1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I see many posts in the thread that you can use any tank here but I cant seem to grasp whats the point of keeping nunu/tank blocked in the corner. Whats the synergy/gain of this?
Comment by PleaseGroomMe at 25/01/2025 at 10:50 UTC
1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Is this bait like that one plat player who said its ok to lose by 1 krug
