/r/OWS Brouhaha Recap

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/qren5/rows_brouhaha_recap/

created by [deleted] on 11/03/2012 at 10:30 UTC*

63 upvotes, 18 top-level comments (showing 18)

I felt like the /r/occupywallstreet drama was getting a little out of hand and needed its own recap thread. I am by no means an expert on this drama, but here is what I've managed to figure out. As far as necessary backstory goes, this[1] is the best explanation of the groups we are watching here (/r/conspiracy, /r/conspiratard, and /r/EnoughPaulSpam, specifically). I highly suggest you read it before moving on to the rest of the recap.

1: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qp30f/ows_mods_on_a_censorshipbanning_spree_trying_to/c3zq85o

The recent drama started in this thread[2] in /r/conspiracy. blacksunalchemy noticed that (in their own words), "The Pro-Zionist, anti-Liberty, pro-war, stooges known by: TheGhostOfNoLibs, JCM 267, TheGhostOfTzvika, and Facehammer," had been added to the /r/OWS mod list. Shortly thereafter, blacksunalchemy was banned from /r/OWS[3], presumably by one of the new moderators. This[4] /r/conspiratard thread was made in reaction to blacksunalchemy's /r/conspiracy thread naming the new moderators. A new thread[5] was created in /r/NolibsWatch, essentially pointing out that the new /r/OWS mods had a history[6] of[7] criticizing[8] the Occupy Wall Street protests. When user crackduck attempted to point this out in[9] in /r/OWS, their thread was removed.

2: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qo4la/look_who_just_became_moderators_for_ows/

3: http://i.imgur.com/43zVK.jpg

4: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/qogpb/rconspiracy_tries_to_convince_rsubredditdrama/

5: http://www.reddit.com/r/NolibsWatch/comments/qog6f/nolibs_as_voiceofreas0n_on_ows_protesters_the_one/

6: http://www.reddit.com/r/NolibsWatch/comments/qog6f/nolibs_as_voiceofreas0n_on_ows_protesters_the_one/

7: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/l87f8/occupy_wall_street_taken_down_in_massive/c2r0vz5

8: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/l87f8/occupy_wall_street_taken_down_in_massive/c2r0ybw

9: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qohi5/fyi_comments_made_about_ows_and_protesters_by_new/

/r/OWS users began to react to the new moderation very quickly hoping for an explanation of the bans[10]. A user came forward to state that the new moderators, "had censored Libertarians and those who [were] Anti-War."[11]. A comment[12] by user rightc0ast was removed for trolling[13] by moderator jcm267[14] to much outrage from the userbase[15]. krugmanisapuppet (the star of this drama from awhile back[16]) enters the thread to drop some information on the new moderators, specifically accusing jcm267 of being a "government-funded astroturf agent,"[17] and stating that the new moderators are a crew of "well known government propagandists", who have been trolling for five years[18]. The thread devolves from there predictably, with some folks choosing to move to /r/occupy and /r/alloccupy to escape what the userbase felt were rogue mods[19].

10: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qogad/can_someone_explain_why_these_users_are_being/

11: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qogr7/ows_mod_ghostofnolibs_now_ows_is_losing_supporters/

12: http://www.reddit.com/r/NolibsWatch/comments/qp10k/nolibs_crew_attempts_to_censor_rightc0ast_in_rows/c3zahoq

13: http://i.imgur.com/F1QZ1.png

14: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qogr7/ows_mod_ghostofnolibs_now_ows_is_losing_supporters/c3z9ld2

15: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qogr7/ows_mod_ghostofnolibs_now_ows_is_losing_supporters/c3z9ld2

16: http://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/pzgbn/every_ron_paul_thread_in_rpolitics_is_blanketed/

17: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qogr7/ows_mod_ghostofnolibs_now_ows_is_losing_supporters/c3zbg49

18: http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/internet_digg_bury_the_bury_brigade.htm

19: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qogrv/ows_subreddit_has_become_compromised_the_tactics/

This thread[20] was posted in /r/OWS and featured this supposedly reproduced comment of evidence against the new anti-OWS moderators[21], including advocating a permanent presence in Iraq[22], saying those involved in WikiLeaks belong in prison[23], and mocking dead non-violent protesters[24].

20: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qp30f/ows_mods_on_a_censorshipbanning_spree_trying_to/

21: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qp30f/ows_mods_on_a_censorshipbanning_spree_trying_to/

22: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/l3yrp/leon_panetta_us_troops_need_immunity_in_iraq/c2qwqbs

23: http://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/iowrv/revolutiontruth_wikileaks_and_a_truth_revolution/

24: http://i.imgur.com/mK4Fd.png

The anti-OWS mods were demodded. /r/conspiracy congratulated themselves on a job well done[25]. Meanwhile, over at /r/alloccupy, one of the now ousted anti-OWS moderators explained that it was just a temporary job[26].

25: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qogr7/ows_mod_ghostofnolibs_now_ows_is_losing_supporters/

26: http://www.reddit.com/r/AllOccupy/comments/qp6dy/welcome_to_alloccupy_a_new_subreddit_for_the_ows/c3zc62z

/r/occupywallstreet denizens began to wonder who had modded these people in the first place?[27]. Nebula42's name was brought up right away. Information was quickly leaked[28] in an /r/enoughpaulspam thread[29], including an explanation of why the anti-OWS mods were added[30] and why they were asked to leave[31]. One user offered the information[32] that one of the anti-OWS mods was an FBI informant[33]. At some point amidst all these dramatics, the anti-OWS mods were readded[34] to the moderator list. A thread calling for a mass exodus to some unnamed subreddit was then made[35].

27: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qqugo/which_moderatornebula42_brought_in_pro_israelpro/

28: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qr2cv/leaked_roccupywallstreet_mod_invites_jcm267_and/

29: http://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughPaulSpam/comments/qpo4z/theyre_going_full_blown_insane/

30: http://i.imgur.com/NCri5.png

31: http://i.imgur.com/RNp7J.png

32: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qqugo/which_moderatornebula42_brought_in_pro_israelpro/c3zq1gi

33: http://i.imgur.com/hByyH.png

34: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qqvmu/the_antiows_mod_has_been_remodded/

35: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qr026/please_read_calling_for_a_mass_exodus_of/

Subreddit Drama 2012 Homecoming Queen Laurelai showed up and revealed that the /r/OWS drama was the result of her breakup with Nebula42[36]. /r/OWS members predictably lost their shit at this news and the thread devolved into typical Laurelai drama[37]. Next, Nebula42 stepped forward and responded to the drama[38], stating simply that the new mods were added to enforce the subreddit's rules[39]. Predictably, the user base responded badly[40]. Nebula 42 stated that upon review of the moderator log the new mods did not abuse their power[41]. This drama's B-Plot picks up steam here in this thread[42] when Laurelai comes forward to state that Nebula42 is lying about the seriousness and length of their romantic relationship, stating they were engaged. Nebula42 discusses her relationship with Laurelai here in this[43] /r/subredditdrama thread.

36: http://i.imgur.com/JnX0r.png

37: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qqugo/which_moderatornebula42_brought_in_pro_israelpro/c3zs5yt

38: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qrb6r/weve_always_had_rules/

39: http://www.reddit.com/help/faqs/OccupyWallStreet#GeneralRules

40: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qrb6r/weve_always_had_rules/c3zttkt

41: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qrb6r/weve_always_had_rules/c3ztl3s

42: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qrb6r/weve_always_had_rules/c3ztomg

43: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qrb6r/weve_always_had_rules/c3ztomg

The most recent news is that a petition has been started to remove Nebula42 from her moderating position[44]. ~~I will be updating this recap as news develops.~~ Aaaaaaand looks like it is over.[45]

44: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qragi/petition_to_demand_nebula42s_resignation/

45: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/qrerd/roccupywallstreet_drama_is_over_please_resume/

Comments

Comment by Tipps at 11/03/2012 at 13:03 UTC

24 upvotes, 1 direct replies

This is all just wonderfully insane. All these subreddits are coming together in one giant orgy of drama and conspiracy - with Laurelai and her infinite sockpuppets in the middle.

I... I can't tell what's real anymore.

Comment by GAMEOVER at 11/03/2012 at 12:52 UTC

36 upvotes, 2 direct replies

There's too much crazy here to keep track of it all. Trolls and countertrolls abound, each side calling the other out with ever more hysterical accusations. And then there's poor Laurelai in the middle of it trying to focus the spotlight on her alleged engagement to one of the mods, completely derailing the crazytrain.

This weekend is the high water mark of drama for 2012, standing at about 9.0 La.

Comment by reticulate at 11/03/2012 at 13:33 UTC

28 upvotes, 1 direct replies

So I'd like to assume at some point that the admins will actually do something about this? If some (apparently) influential redditor can completely fuck up numerous subreddits either by direct action or by cyber-shagging the belligerents, there has to be some sort of value judgement made and this shit put to bed.

I'm a lurker here, and don't subscribe to lgbt or ows or whatever. But it's pretty obvious you've got a giant nexus of bullshit and e-drama swirling around a very small select group of people who are completely incapable of wielding whatever minor Internet Power they currently have.

I know this may reduce the propensity for popcorn, but jesus fucking christ.

Comment by moonflower at 11/03/2012 at 21:25 UTC

7 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Amusing difference in accounts of the great romance:

Laurelai says: ''We were engaged and we dated for a lot longer than a month now stop lying. We were together for 5 months.''

Nebula42 replies: ''Sorry but we never met in person.''

Comment by [deleted] at 11/03/2012 at 12:26 UTC

30 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Every sub is infiltrated. Reddit is dead.

Comment by Nerdlinger at 11/03/2012 at 17:19 UTC

22 upvotes, 2 direct replies

accusing jcm267 of being a "government-funded astroturf agent,"

So… how does one go about getting one of these government-funded astroturfing jobs? I'd probably be pretty good at it and could use the cash so… feel free to get in touch with me, government handlers.

Comment by lanismycousin at 11/03/2012 at 12:12 UTC

8 upvotes, 1 direct replies

This is more riveting than watching my daily soaps ....

Comment by derphurr at 11/03/2012 at 12:24 UTC

13 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Can't someone make a shadow reddit that is like a truman show to keep laurelai busy and off the real reddit? Drama everywhere she goes.

Also hilarious is the Nebula42 accidentally outed her sock account where she posts claiming not to be a mod defending her own mod decisions. She accidentally didn't switch back to Nebula42 when posting about checking the mod logs here

Comment by CaCtUs2003 at 11/03/2012 at 15:44 UTC

13 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Just waiting for the news to come on one day:

Comment by Epistaxis at 12/03/2012 at 06:53 UTC

4 upvotes, 1 direct replies

You should use the [recap] tag for recaps.

Anyway, thanks.

Comment by Noel_Gallagher at 11/03/2012 at 22:29 UTC

3 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Well this has been entertaining. I wonder if some of the commenters taking umbrage with the Rachel Corrie jokes do the same for tasteless jokes about Neda Agha-Soltan et al.

Comment by cooljeanius at 18/03/2012 at 23:14 UTC

1 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Hey sweet one of my threads made it into the OP

Comment by mossadi at 11/03/2012 at 15:06 UTC

1 upvotes, 2 direct replies

This thread is the insider's recap[1]. A lot of the subredditdrama threads are just threads trying to make SRD into their personal army and created by the same people who OWS was trying to get rid of by bringing on the /r/enoughpaulspam - /r/conspiratard mods, so they're not really impeachable sources of information.

1: http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiratard/comments/qrhjp/roccupywallstreet_moderators_throw_nebula42_and/

I'm not including this thread as one of the personal army threads, the linked thread calls this one a good recap.

Comment by Facehammer at 11/03/2012 at 14:02 UTC

-2 upvotes, 3 direct replies

Holy shit, I stumbled into a perfect storm of internet drama.

Comment by TroubadourCeol at 12/03/2012 at 00:30 UTC

-4 upvotes, 2 direct replies

ITT: A circlejerk between rightc0ast, crackduck, and their brigade of Paultard downvoters. The paulspammers have taken over yet another subreddit under the guise of fighting "hateful" anti-Paul people. This whole thing is manufactured drama so the Paulspammers can fling more shit on the admins of EPS and hope to "convert" more people to their Church of His Holiness Mr. Dr. Professor Paul the Almighty.

Comment by [deleted] at 11/03/2012 at 22:30 UTC

-5 upvotes, 0 direct replies

My take on this:

Ron Paul spammers are immature idiots.

EPS and conspiritard are full of immature assholes.

r/OWS needs a mod change.

Nolibs can go fuck himself.

/endrant

Comment by [deleted] at 11/03/2012 at 18:58 UTC

-4 upvotes, 2 direct replies

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Comment by EnjoysInternetDrama at 12/03/2012 at 04:37 UTC

-3 upvotes, 1 direct replies

With the shit getting worse in IRAQ and Afghanistan redditors are becoming more and more averse to war. No wonder pro war people are trying to take over.