created by 66348923675346899756 on 03/02/2025 at 09:02 UTC
116 upvotes, 16 top-level comments (showing 16)
Comment by 66348923675346899756 at 03/02/2025 at 09:04 UTC
150 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Žižek je imel nekaj za povedati tudi o naših domačih “mirovnikih” (sodobnih Chamberlainih):
For example, here in Slovenia, when I pointed out that treating Ukraine’s defense as a proxy war for NATO essentially insults Ukrainians, people don’t seem to grasp it. Ukrainians are being portrayed as if they could choose peace but instead decide to engage in a war that displaces a quarter of their population, just for the sake of a proxy war. But in reality, it’s a matter of their survival. They don’t listen to that. They claim peace is the most important value, but here’s the irony: in my country, the left-wing who claim this are also supporting the memory of partisans from Yugoslavia, particularly in Slovenia, who fought against German occupation. The partisans were doing something very similar, and arguably more extreme, than what Ukrainians are doing now. They resisted Germany, often executing hostages and engaging in violent acts. Meanwhile, the ideology of the right-wingers who collaborated with the Germans was that resistance couldn’t be afforded because it would threaten the Slovenian nation. So here’s the paradox: the same people who defend resistance now — when Slovenia was much more vulnerable than Ukraine, without NATO support — are now advocating for peace, ignoring the complexities of the situation.
It’s incredible to me how many pseudo-leftists are drawn to this strange fascination with Russia. Even though they admit that Putin is horrible, they still cling to the idea that Russia, somehow being less affected by Western consumerism, somehow preserves more “authentic” human relationships. For example, an idiot once told me that while the West is all about promiscuity and sexual freedoms, in Russia, “true love” is still possible.
This romanticized notion of Russia is often combined with another leftist dogma: that NATO is the ultimate evil. According to this view, anyone in conflict with NATO must have something good or virtuous about them. By this logic, Ukraine is disqualified from support because it’s seen as merely fighting a “proxy war” on behalf of NATO.
It worries me that they treat Ukrainians as some kind of idiots — they falsify the choice that Ukrainians face. This oversimplification completely ignores reality. For Ukrainians, the choice isn’t between peace and war — it’s between resisting or disappearing as a nation. The Russians have made that abundantly clear.
When people say, “We should stop supporting Ukraine and push for negotiations with Russia,” I respond, “Maybe — but that decision should ultimately be up to the Ukrainians.” However, are they aware that Ukraine’s current strength to negotiate, if it exists, is entirely due to its resistance? Without Western support, Ukraine would never have reached a position where negotiations are even possible. This is absolutely clear.
Comment by wren4777 at 03/02/2025 at 09:36 UTC
26 upvotes, 3 direct replies
V Avstraliji veliko socialistih oseb (ali vsaj osebe, ki trdijo so socialiste) rade imajo Rusijo ker "America bad". Je podobno tukaj?
Comment by kume_V at 03/02/2025 at 09:23 UTC
17 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Tokrat se strinjam z njim.
Comment by Shultzi_soldat at 03/02/2025 at 11:00 UTC
15 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Strinjam se sicer s tem kar je napisal, ampak po tem kar jaz slišim ko se pogovarjam z znanci, je osnovno razmišljanje, da to ni naš problem (eni so egoisti, drugi pa pač po moje rusofili ali pa oprane glave). Kot da se ne spomnimo kako smo prosjačili Vatikan in Nemce da nas priznajo in nam pomagajo. Kaj če bi nam takrat vsi obrnili hrbet.
Comment by LISFLOOD-FP at 03/02/2025 at 11:19 UTC
12 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Kje je dezurni rusofil evgis (brunda) da nam pove zakaj ima narobe
Comment by Remarkable_Doubt6665 at 03/02/2025 at 11:25 UTC
10 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Odlicno povedano!
Comment by wut3210 at 03/02/2025 at 09:57 UTC
18 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Bravo Žižek, odlično povedano
Comment by Remarkable_Doubt6665 at 03/02/2025 at 11:24 UTC
7 upvotes, 0 direct replies
👍👍
Comment by mijaomao at 03/02/2025 at 13:22 UTC
7 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Se mi zdi da v človeški zgodovini ni bilo časa ko smo bili ljudje tako napadeni s tako ali drugačno propagando. Žal je "levica" zelo naivna za vsakršni narativ ki ji ga mediji servirajo, ali gre to za palestino, ali kaj drugega. Vsi smo tukaj v istem košu seveda, vsi smo naivni do stvari o katerih ne vemo nič, problem pri levici je njena nuja po reševanju sveta in aroganca s katero se le-tega loteva. Če si aktivist za nekaj o čemer ne veš nič je velika verjetnost da narediš več škode kot pa pomagaš.
Comment by jajo_majo at 03/02/2025 at 10:51 UTC
13 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Žižek, my mitteleuropa man!
Comment by pxlrider at 03/02/2025 at 15:46 UTC
5 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Ne pozabit, da če bo prišlo do "mira" oz. sporazuma, ki ne bo pravičen, da bodo Ukrajinci sami vzeli pravico v svoje roke. Preveč ljudi, sorodnikov in stvari so izgubili, da bi sedaj rašistom kar predali vse in celotno državo podredili pootlerju! Poznam primere, ko je fotr imel 3 sinove, 2 mrtva, eden ima samo še eno roko. Fotr je šel potem v vojsko, ker njegovi sinovi imajo tudi otroke in je šel in je reku, da dokler ne bo pravice ne bo nehal. Tudi, če podpišejo sporazum in če ne bo pravice za njegovo družino, da bo šel v rusijo in šel od hiše do hiše, od vasi do vasi in bo poklal vse kar mu bo prišlo pod roke. Že sedaj so našli večinoma vse, ki so delali zločine v Ukrajini in jih likvidirali.
Ni edini. V vseh okupiranih regijah bi imeli rašisti popoln kaos, ukrajincev ne bodo upognili.
Ne samo za mir, vsi skupaj moramo podpirati, da rašisti plačajo za svoj vojni pohod in da se jim prepreči da bi kakorkoli v prihodnosti lahko ponovili kaj podobnega. Ke če ne bo pravičnega miru, potem se nam obetajo hudi časi... tudi za nas tu.
Comment by Zamejski_Scum at 03/02/2025 at 09:33 UTC
11 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Ne bi se mogel bolj strinjati. Na drugi strani NATO mržnja tudi povsem iracionalna. Nikakor ni institucija pod kritiko, ampak realne alternative trenutno ni, vsaj na kratki rok.
Comment by owlexe23 at 03/02/2025 at 19:45 UTC
0 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Vse lepo in prav, iz geopolitičnega pogleda ima Žižek prav ampak če pogledamo ekonomski vidik, imamo sistem, kjer podjetja služijo na podlagi vojne. Pomeni, da moreš imeti konstantno vojno in to USA po drugi svetovni vojni tudi počenja. In tako od Vietnama, do Iraqa, Afganistana in sedaj Ukrajina, kjer povsod služi ameriška industrija orožja.
- Skupna tržna kapitalizacija 54 podjetij, ki kotirajo na borzi v ZDA in se javno kotirajo v obrambnem indeksu znaša 1,25 bilijona dolarjev.
- Med letom 2022 je zgoraj omenjeni referenčni indeks pridobil 8,6 % in tako presegel širši trg ZDA za 28 %. Ta dvig so vodili Allegheny Technologies (+87 %), Maxar Technologies (+75 %) in Northrop Grumman (+41 %). Čeprav je širši ameriški trg padel za skoraj 20 %, je več kot 4 od 10 obrambnih delnic zabeležilo dvomestno zvišanje cene delnic v odstotkih.
Comment by NerminPadez at 03/02/2025 at 10:26 UTC
-5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Wait, a niso USAID "odklopili"?
Comment by rumenastoenka at 03/02/2025 at 15:09 UTC
-6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Duša prodana.
Comment by MToaster at 03/02/2025 at 10:13 UTC*
-16 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Uf, komaj sem se prebil mimo prvih par odstavkov. Hvala bogu se proti koncu izboljša.
E: Če ma kdo argumente, prosim. Ne, sej se hecam. Sej vem da vas je 80% downvotalo brez da bi sploh kliknili na link :)