Someone saying you're gaslighting them when you're not is them gaslighting you into thinking you are.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/rhbzr5/someone_saying_youre_gaslighting_them_when_youre/

created by Hurdleflurdle on 15/12/2021 at 23:02 UTC

37647 upvotes, 148 top-level comments (showing 25)

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Comment by intet42 at 16/12/2021 at 02:38 UTC

3342 upvotes, 12 direct replies

I have been in situations where each side genuinely felt like the other was gaslighting them. I think it's an unfortunate outcome of mixing honest disagreement and trauma history.

Comment by Chop1n at 16/12/2021 at 01:44 UTC*

3356 upvotes, 21 direct replies

Lots of people seem to think that "gaslighting" is basically just lying to, or attempting to deceive, someone, but that's not what "gaslighting" means. It refers to a concerted effort to undermine someone else's confidence in their own sanity. It's not even *possible* to gaslight someone unless there's some form of established trust involved--enough trust to get you to seriously wonder whether you're experiencing hallucinations or delusions.

inb4 someone makes the obvious joke about my explanation of what gaslighting is being an act of gaslighting in itself.

Comment by Altruistic-Battle-32 at 16/12/2021 at 05:45 UTC

60 upvotes, 1 direct replies

This term in general…… it’s the avocado of vocabulary. It doesn’t belong everywhere

Comment by ShaughnessyT at 15/12/2021 at 23:13 UTC

535 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Are you gaslighting me right now?

Comment by fastolfe00 at 16/12/2021 at 00:33 UTC

486 upvotes, 4 direct replies

Gaslighting doesn't exist. You made it up because you're crazy.

Comment by CryptoCentric at 16/12/2021 at 03:03 UTC

153 upvotes, 1 direct replies

"Gaslighting isn't real, you made it up cuz you're fucking crazy." ~News reporter on Rick and Morty.

Comment by topothebellcurve at 16/12/2021 at 00:45 UTC

109 upvotes, 3 direct replies

Been there, done that. Really messes with your head.

Comment by [deleted] at 16/12/2021 at 00:46 UTC

64 upvotes, 1 direct replies

instructions unclear, Wife and I are now gaslighting eachother.

Comment by [deleted] at 16/12/2021 at 06:00 UTC

39 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Overused trigger word ever since it became too popular and now people just use it to describe behavior they don't like.

Comment by Bakoro at 16/12/2021 at 09:18 UTC

19 upvotes, 2 direct replies

If you're ever in that situation, the only winning move is to walk away.

You can't win in that kind of shit. What are you going to do, start recording every private conversation and interaction? You *might* get away with that at work, but it's not tenable in a relationship.

I was in a long term relationship that was already on the rocks, and there was a point where we couldn't agree on basic, objective facts like if I made breakfast or not.

That shit got wild, we'd be telling two completely contradictory narratives that couldn't just be boiled down to interpretations or mistakes or miscommunications.

She's telling me I'm gaslighting her, I'm telling her that's she's either gaslighting me or the 4 different psychoactive drugs she's on have her all fucked up to the point she can't keep track of what's going on.

It can be painful, but if you can't agree on basic facts and feel like you're living in different realities, you just have to leave. I literally decided to be homeless for a bit rather than continue with that mess.

Comment by SnarfbObo at 16/12/2021 at 03:10 UTC

18 upvotes, 1 direct replies

No it isn't

Comment by BlueExorzist at 15/12/2021 at 23:14 UTC

52 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Rick and Morty Season 4 episode 1 There is a scene with this

Comment by [deleted] at 16/12/2021 at 03:03 UTC

10 upvotes, 1 direct replies

True IRL gaslighting is generally a form of emotional manipulation and it's quite horrible, but I see a lot of online/anonymous accusations of gaslighting appear to be exactly this.

Comment by ASmufasa47 at 16/12/2021 at 02:06 UTC

25 upvotes, 1 direct replies

That's why I hate the term, it gets bounced around like a volleyball

Comment by CutieBoBootie at 16/12/2021 at 10:38 UTC

6 upvotes, 0 direct replies

In abusive situations this scenario is called DARVO. Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender". It is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.

Comment by -I-D-G-A-F- at 16/12/2021 at 08:25 UTC

6 upvotes, 1 direct replies

RIGHT!! I’ve been accused of gaslighting because I remembered something someone said even though they forgot it, among other small things. I was told “you make me feel crazy and you’re gaslighting me” and its a checkmate. How would I reply to that? Its not like I can say “I’m not gaslighting you, your memory just sucks” even if thats the truth. Then i questioned myself.

Comment by [deleted] at 16/12/2021 at 00:50 UTC

20 upvotes, 5 direct replies

What even is gaslighting? Never heard of it until this months suddenly everyone online uses it. Non native English speaker btw.

Comment by RGivens at 16/12/2021 at 05:09 UTC

6 upvotes, 0 direct replies

We don't use gas to light anything other than stoves

Comment by Deziac at 16/12/2021 at 07:58 UTC

4 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Had someone say to me one time "Don't you dare try to gaslight me" and I said "If I'm gaslighting you, then I'm clearly not a healthy person to be around you. Sorry about that, good luck." And ghosted her. Apparently that was "unacceptable" of me and she kept messaging me for months afterwards.

Comment by eghed8 at 16/12/2021 at 03:57 UTC

13 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Only if it's intentional. Sometimes people are just wrong.

Comment by SigourneyReaver at 15/12/2021 at 23:04 UTC

31 upvotes, 2 direct replies

It's actually DARVOing. Deny, attack, reverse victim and offender.

Gaslighting is more like, "you're just upset because you're crazy, and that's why all your friends only pretend they like you."

Comment by jspikeball123 at 16/12/2021 at 06:28 UTC

4 upvotes, 0 direct replies

"gaslighting is when people say things"

Comment by cmacfarland64 at 16/12/2021 at 07:08 UTC

3 upvotes, 0 direct replies

This term is nonsense most of the time. In an argument, both sides can think they’re right. Both sides can try to convince the other person that they are wrong. Both sides can believe two different things are both real. Perception is wild. None of this is gaslighting but gets called out as such.

Comment by YeazetheSock at 16/12/2021 at 01:47 UTC

38 upvotes, 1 direct replies

I’ve seen this in this generation, they learn buzzwords and use it to abuse others emotionally into thinking they’re evil

Comment by [deleted] at 16/12/2021 at 01:27 UTC

12 upvotes, 0 direct replies

You must have been married.