created by AmazingExperiance on 10/11/2024 at 19:25 UTC
80 upvotes, 9 top-level comments (showing 9)
My gf and I were talking about wacky acronyms and she mentioned nambla. When she told me what it stood for I was shocked and did a Google search with reddit at the end.
It brought me to this subreddit....
The op of the thread and the people responding were acting as if pedophilia was part of lgbtq?
Then they were arguing that pedophiles deserve an outlet to get off. They were saying that it wasn't good that countries were banning sex toys that resembled children. They felt as if pedophiles should have the right to fantasize about fucking children.
I just want to let the pedophiles in this subreddit know that it doesn't matter how hard you try to identify with lgbtq. You're not a part of it. You're part of an insidious and hated group known as pedophiles.
As soon as you began fantasizing about children you lost your right to identify as lgbtq.
Comment by rowanstars at 11/11/2024 at 03:45 UTC
46 upvotes, 1 direct replies
No MAPs/pedos/nambla/whatever actually think they’re part of the lgbtqia community for being attracted to children, its been proven that almost every single “group” that says that and gains any traction in recent years has been an alt right psyop / defamation campaign to be able to claim queer people are groomers and predators. Please don’t take that stuff seriously or give it attention as it just makes it gain traction.
Some of those people may ALSO be lgbtqia in some way and claim community status for that, but that’s not really the same thing and for the most part no sane person announces stuff like that and frolics around the community online or not.
Comment by Fislitib at 10/11/2024 at 20:47 UTC
26 upvotes, 1 direct replies
My understanding is that the group basically fell apart about 15-20 years ago. Any claimed support since then has consistently been right wingers poorly attempting a false flag against the queer rights movement.
Comment by [deleted] at 11/11/2024 at 19:20 UTC
5 upvotes, 1 direct replies
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Comment by alicehassecrets at 10/11/2024 at 21:21 UTC
11 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Hey, whenever you talk about a thread, it would be really cool if you could leave a link to what you are talking about so people can check it for themselves.
Comment by MeyhamM2 at 10/11/2024 at 22:02 UTC
10 upvotes, 3 direct replies
I agree 100% that pedophiles are not the same as LGBT people, but I recall from my gender studies classes in college reading that in post modern gender theory, that provided people aren’t actually raping real kids, it sort of makes sense to allow them to have sex toys resembling children if it helps them NOT feel the need to pursue actual children.
Comment by loselyconscious at 11/11/2024 at 01:07 UTC
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
There is an unfortunate lack of clarity regarding (what I think are) legitimate conversations about pre-adulthood sexuality (stemming from Freud) and deconstructing (which does not necessarily mean abolishing) the relatively recent boundaries between teenagehood and adulthood in queer theory, that have allowed unsavory people to claim space in the community, and reactionaries to exploit uncareful discourse to stoke homophobia
Comment by A-CAB at 11/11/2024 at 15:15 UTC
5 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Just like straight people can be (and often are) pedophiles, gay, trans, and bi people can all be pedophiles too.
I would argue that you cannot be queer and pedophilic (queerness is a sociopolitical identification rooted in an anti-capitalist and interpersonally liberatory philosophy - being a child rapist is anything but). That’s not to say there’s not some muddying of the discourse that’s been weaponized against queer people. (Harry Hay is unquestionably queer but muddied that discourse in aligning with the likes of Nambla in opposing the bifurcated ages of consent in the US.)
Regardless, this rhetorical and historic muddying is not confusing to anyone who isn’t a complete fool. It’s pretty clear that queerness and pedophilia have nothing to do with each other and those that don’t understand the clarity aren’t acting in good faith. Pay them no mind.
Comment by BageOnkel at 13/11/2024 at 08:15 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Wtf are you talking about?
Comment by konchitsya__leto at 27/11/2024 at 06:06 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Wait so Mario Mieli, Guy Hocquenghem, and Michel Foucault weren't queer theory pioneers because they were pro-pedo?