Comment by throwaweight7 on 05/02/2016 at 00:22 UTC

-4 upvotes, 3 direct replies (showing 3)

View submission: Rules Explanations and Reminders

I don't understand why this is necessary. You just arbitrarily decide what is and what isn't appropriate? Sometimes condescension is appropriate, sometimes insults are appropriate. How can you decide what is and what isn't appropriate without being fascist? There's a mechanism for the community here to decide what is and what isn't appropriate, why can't we stick to that.

Sure outlandish, grotesque or redudant submissions should be removed, but by cloistering the community you censor an entire political philosophy. You risk turning this into the type of echo chamber /r/politics already is. In fact attempting to censor submissions and comments can only lead an uneven application based on political agendas.

This kills the community.

There is no reason to change the way this community is moderated now. If you're worried the oncoming elections will bring about a tidal wave on inappropriate content, I say let that happen and assess how to deal with it in real-time instead of proactively. A proactive approach threatens to undue what it is a mature and active community.

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Comment by allmilhouse at 05/02/2016 at 00:45 UTC

6 upvotes, 1 direct replies

They're not changing anything. It's a reminder.

Comment by starryeyedsky at 05/02/2016 at 00:57 UTC*

4 upvotes, 0 direct replies

As /u/allmilhouse stated, nothing has been changed. This is just a reminder and further explanation (with some examples) to help out the new users we are getting in droves thanks to election season.

That said, our civility rules have been in place for a very long time. Attacking an argument is OK. Attacking a user personally is not and can get you banned if you continue don't so. Calling someone a cunt and an asshole does nothing to further the discussion at hand. In fact it only detracts from it as it usually leads to users just calling each other names over and over again.

Edit: removed the double period typo. Just couldn't let that stand. Makes it look like I'm using a half elipses or something.

Comment by amici_ursi at 05/02/2016 at 01:26 UTC

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When you say, "I don't understand why **this** is necessary", what specifically are you asking about? If you're asking, "why does this subreddit need rules or moderators?", it's because without enforced minimum standards, it would quickly turn into a cesspit of political memes and shitposting.

You just arbitrarily decide what is and what isn't appropriate?

Yes. We literally run each comment through random.org. If it get's a prime number, then we nuke it and ban the OP.

Sometimes condescension is appropriate, sometimes insults are appropriate

We don't moderate condescension, and insults/incivility aren't appropriate for high quality subreddit. Those rules have been there for a while.

Sure outlandish, grotesque or redudant submissions should be removed

Wait wait wait. Now *you're* saying certain things should be removed? That's censorship and fascism in action.

something about "censorship", fascism, literally hitler/mao/stalin/lincoln, etc

By moderating we let political philosophy's grow. Unless your political philosophy is, "I have the privilege to say whatever I want on an internet forum!", you'll be fine.

We have a diverse team of moderators. I can't effectively take a shit in the bathroom without /u/luster yelling at me to get off my SJW high horse. David admonishes us all when we get out of line. And literally the entire team sees every modmail that goes through the subreddit. The point is, we don't hesitate to call each other out when we don't agree on someone's moderating. By having a diverse team actively moderating, we ensure that some minimum standard is being met, and that the subreddit isn't sliding into the condition that everyone complains about.

Nota bene, this isn't a change. It's a reminder.