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Depending on the city, your mid-day NPR station might have some kooky stuff. NPR member stations choose their own programming, but they all run Morning Edition in the morning and All Things Considered in the evening. But between those hours, they can kinda do whatever. And sometimes it gets pretty dumb.
But about the program you heard, obviously I don't know the specifics of what was said, but when California is determining custody battles, the courts will consider a parent to be abusive if they refuse to affirm the child's gender identity.
So now imagine you've got a terminally online 11 year old daughter who after a bout of depression spent binging tiktok videos says they're nonbinary and want puberty blockers. You might think the kid is just going through the ordinary trials and tribulations of that age, needs to touch grass, and maybe get some counseling before considering messing with their hormones. ...But now you're risking being labeled an abusive parent by the state and potentially losing custody.
Something I've come to notice is that while the right get hysterical about these things, often exaggerating them into caricatures, the left routinely goes into denial, refusing to acknowledge that some of this shit actually happens. It's like the right is allergic to bee stings, while the left denies that bees even exist.
Comment by Morat20 at 02/08/2023 at 21:55 UTC*
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Any gender affirming care of a minor beyond a new wardrobe and haircut *in any state* (and this is WPATH standards too, so it's their worldwide recommendation) requires:
1. A formal diagnosis from a doctorate-level psychologist.
2. Six months ongoing therapy and the sign-off of the therapist.
3. The consent of the custodial parent (or both parents if they are married)
4. The consent of the child.
5. The consent of the child's *doctors*.
Also, TikTok doesn't make you trans. You're peddling ROGD (rapid-onset gender dysphoria), which comes from a single retracted paper whose *entire* sample size is....parents from three anti-trans websites. Unsurprisingly, they all think their child becoming trans was "sudden" rather than their kid correctly predicting how their parents would react. It was retracted for, well, being *incredibly bad* as a paper. Skewed sample, authors with their fingers further on the scale, and worse statistics. It's bullshit from top to bottom.
And *nobody* is taking custody away from kids for not letting them transition, although there have been court cases were separated parents were instructed to stop interfering with medical decisions made by the *custodial parent* -- which did include preventing attempts at conversion therapy and constant dead-naming, as it was considered abusive. But again, if you think that's *new* you haven't been around enough divorced couples with kids -- there's frequently significant disagreements and court orders, and it's why one of the parents is generally granted the right to make medical decisions over the other.
However, if the custodial parent denies treatment the non-custodial parent *can* try to convince a court to allow (as is done with, for example, kids who have parents with differing religious beliefs on surgery). But they don't get charged with abuse unless they're *abusive*.