Dumb question

https://www.reddit.com/r/Parahumans/comments/1ie57dd/dumb_question/

created by Routine_Comb_1778 on 31/01/2025 at 03:02 UTC*

0 upvotes, 14 top-level comments (showing 14)

Im doing a Worm fanfic jump currently, and i picked my custom power, it's a combination of Brute 10 (Durability being the dominant aspect) + Mover 10 (Can't fly but capable of hovering up to Statue of Liberty head. Can you guys tell me how strong this guy would be ?

Im starting off in January 2011, Brockton Bay.

Edit: the score is based on PRT scale

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Comment by Womblue at 31/01/2025 at 03:48 UTC

32 upvotes, 1 direct replies

...have you read worm?

Comment by greenTrash238 at 31/01/2025 at 03:06 UTC

23 upvotes, 1 direct replies

No idea how strong the power would be. You just described it abstractly with no specifics. What makes the power a “brute 10” or “mover 10”? Each could mean a lot of things.

Comment by Kuro_6320 at 31/01/2025 at 03:31 UTC

23 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Since most capes don't go over 6 I'd say it's outrageously powerful. If you were to actually create a Brute 10 and Move 10 character. It would basically be Khonsu, an Endbringer capable of tanking hacks and instantly traveling anywhere in the world.

To put that into perspective...

Endbringers, multidimensional monsters that require a solar system level explosion at the very least to be killed without hacks, are Brute 9s. Alexandria whose body is paused in time is an 8. Yours is a 10, if we only take into account durability I don't even know how that would work.

Mover is a bit of a hard ranking to rank, but the minimum for you get is a 3 for flying, and an 11 for teleporting stuff to the moon. 12 is the maximum for something human I think and that's for Doormaker who can open portals to a bunch of dimensions. A 10 I guess would be teleporting around the planet and teleporting objects or other people.

In short... So broken that it's not even funny, not even for a fanfic.

Comment by superchoco29 at 31/01/2025 at 05:21 UTC

15 upvotes, 2 direct replies

It feels like you don't really have any true plan beside "Extremely powerful".

Brute 10 is Behemoth-level. And the guy can punch hard enough to cause earthquakes and is durable enough that he can survive continent-destroying blasts. So, if you skew this towards durability, you'd become almost invulnerable and still extremely strong.

Mover 10 depends, because we have many ways of moving. Simply hovering will give you MAYBE a Mover 1 or 2 tag. A 10? You're either able to move faster than Leviathan on land (not underwater, sorry), or teleporting long distances with extreme ease.

But remember that the important thing is what the powers do. We can give you a scale of magnitude, but then each Brute and Mover power is unique. Some Brutes have forcefields, some amplify their strikes with shockwaves, or they have a particular physiology. And some movers teleport, some make portals, some fly, and some grow biological modifications to move faster. That's what you still have fo decide.

Comment by 2_short_Plancks at 31/01/2025 at 04:20 UTC

13 upvotes, 1 direct replies

You realize that the power levels aren't some random number - they are threat ratings that are assigned by the PRT. They represent what the cape can do relative to other capes.

The character you described is NOT a mover 10. Mover 10 means that they are essentially unable to be contained unless their power is shut down. Purity, for example, can fly and do it pretty rapidly but she's only a mover 4. There's a mover 6 character that can fly at high speed while intangible, instantly change direction, and fly through bullets and solid concrete (Grumman). Bambina is also only a mover 6 and she can fly at high speed and bounce off surfaces.

Your character as described is probably about a mover 3.

Comment by Anchuinse at 31/01/2025 at 04:28 UTC

10 upvotes, 1 direct replies

How is that a Mover 10? You say "super fast", but also "can't fly, only hover". Is it basically flight as long as they stay below that height limit? And a Brute 10 isn't "just be really durable". Behemoth is the only canon Brute 10, with even Leviathan called a Brute 9 and Echidna being Brute 8. I don't believe you've come up with a power strong enough to meet Brute 10.

And why make your self-insert character so powerful? The story would be a lot better if you kept the power level lower (~PRT 5-6).

Comment by PrismsNumber1 at 31/01/2025 at 03:16 UTC

14 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Brute doesn’t necessarily mean super strong. It is just a rating of how hard they are to kill. And in the case of mover, it would likely be a teleporter because at a certain level, a flier wouldn’t need higher responses (unless they’re Legend). Remember that these are all a “what if” for if PRT response teams were to go after them.

I know that you’re probably not thinking of this, but they’d likely be around Alexandria’s level of durability and be able to hover & teleport across large distances without line-of sight

Comment by Soulren at 31/01/2025 at 04:12 UTC

7 upvotes, 1 direct replies

I'm assuming with THAT level of power, and zero specifications on anything it can do(Brute 10 could mean you can withstand damage, or you encase the weapons in flesh sacs, or ten million other things), you'd be non-sentient and just piloted by a shard? Like, that's endbringer level. Would you be khepri-style with you and your brain taking a backseat to whatever the shard is doing? Could be fun for a fanfiction I suppose. Like, with that level of power I'd kinda expect you to be some sorta tool for either the entities or at least cauldron.

Comment by NeoLegendDJ at 31/01/2025 at 04:33 UTC

4 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Just an FYI, a Brute 10 would be able to damage an Endbringer enough to get to the dimensionally folded sections just with that, through punching or tearing. A mover 10 would be able to get to the opposite side of the planet within seconds. For reference, that is essentially planet-cracking levels of power per punch, and the movement, (unless it's an energy-based Breaker state) would shred the atmosphere as you would be going the speed of light with a physical being.

https://worm.fandom.com/wiki/Power%5C_Classifications[1][2]

1: https://worm.fandom.com/wiki/Power%5C_Classifications

2: https://worm.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Classifications

Take a look at that to actually get an idea for what power levels you should be looking at for equivalent ratings. For reference, the three strongest heroes are a Blaster 9/Breaker 9/Mover 9, a Trump 12, and a Brute 8/Mover 6-7/Thinker 7.

Comment by DescriptionMission90 at 31/01/2025 at 04:04 UTC

4 upvotes, 1 direct replies

A ten is about the power of Legend or Alexandria. A brute 10 is less "durable" and more "totally impossible to inflict damage on unless you find a clever workaround". Unless your character is an idiot or totally detached from reality, they're definitely in the top fifty capes on the planet, possibly in the top ten.

Comment by themaskedfruitfly314 at 31/01/2025 at 06:13 UTC

3 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

Comment by eous at 31/01/2025 at 05:43 UTC

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For a frame of reference of a brute 10 + mover 10 outside of Worm, I would say Metro Man from Megamind would probably fit the bill. He's completely invulnerable to physical damage with no known weaknesses, and is fast enough that the world is basically frozen around him when he's at full speed. However, Worm as a setting is still confined to a single planet so this isn't as strong as like Goku (no blowing up planets or intergalactic travel).

For the power categories themselves there is a lot of wiggle room on what the powers can be. Brute means that they are strong / durable, but that can manifest as like a generic "Superman" power, or maybe they redirect damage back to their opponents, or they have an adaptive healing where their body adapts to things that hurt them in the past. Mover is even more broad and encompasses stuff like flight, super speed, teleportation, and probably stuff like time travel and alternate dimensions as well.

Comment by Low-Ad-2971 at 31/01/2025 at 07:53 UTC

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Brute 10 is enough to tank attacks that would obliterate continents and I'd assume output a similar level of power depending on the strength to durability ratio.

As for the Mover rating, you'd probably be able to move at at least dozens of times the speed of sound. Especially with that height restriction.

Comment by Sir-Kotok at 31/01/2025 at 14:59 UTC

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1. ability to hover is at best a mover 1-2, how is it a 10

2. go read Worm its a good book. Do your fanfic jump AFTER you read the actual book.