Pronunciation for "ä"

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnFinnish/comments/13fqsax/pronunciation_for_ä/

created by victor030503 on 12/05/2023 at 17:01 UTC

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I just started learning Finnish and I always can't get the right pronunciation for ä. Is it like the " a" in "apple"? Or "a" in "can't" ? Thanks!

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Comment by orbitti at 12/05/2023 at 17:15 UTC

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bat (the mammal)

Comment by isolemnlyswearnot at 12/05/2023 at 17:49 UTC

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As someone said already, ”a” in word ”accident” is very much like we pronounce ä.

Comment by waijinjin at 12/05/2023 at 17:05 UTC

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depends on your accent.

Comment by Tuotau at 12/05/2023 at 19:19 UTC

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It's a near-open front unrounded vowel[1] /æ/

1: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel

The Wikipedia article has also an audio sample

Comment by pinzinella at 12/05/2023 at 17:43 UTC

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Yes, and similar to *a* in "*accident*" (it sounds like *äksident* to a Finn).

Comment by strzeka at 12/05/2023 at 19:50 UTC

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Finnish Aa is like southern GB English fAther, fAster, fArt.

Finnish Ää is like southern GB English fAthom, fAntAstic, fAndAngo. How you say 'cat'.

Comment by Pie_Crown at 12/05/2023 at 20:57 UTC

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Bätmän

Comment by Penisdestroyer7mil at 12/05/2023 at 18:28 UTC

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I think watching a video might be more helpful

Comment by YV_was_a_boss at 12/05/2023 at 18:12 UTC

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what do you mean apple or can't? I pronounce them both with ä, äpple and cän't. I suppose if you were to do it in "queen's english" instead of an american accent they would be two different sounds, but I think the possibility for confusion makes this a bad example

Comment by Eastern_Slide7507 at 12/05/2023 at 18:52 UTC

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Take one of the words you’re struggling with, put it into google translate and click the little speaker.

Comment by dude83fin at 12/05/2023 at 19:20 UTC

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Cat

Comment by BUKKAKELORD at 12/05/2023 at 17:41 UTC

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bät cät träp

lööning (learning)

Comment by Conspiracy_risk at 12/05/2023 at 20:47 UTC

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In Standard Finnish, 'ä' is pronounced like the 'a' in the English word 'apple.' Now, American English has something called æ-tensing, where that vowel sound changes in various positions, like before the letter 'n'. For instance, "can't" tends to be pronounced more like "caen't" (sort of, it's hard to do phonetic transcriptions just using English). In Finnish, however, this doesn't happen. Ä in Finnish is always pronounced like in 'apple'. Some dialects might pronounce it a little differently, idk. However, that is how it is pronounced in Standard Finnish at least.

Hope this helps!

Comment by BrainSpotter22 at 12/05/2023 at 19:42 UTC

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said like english "at" but leave the t off from pronunciation.

Comment by melli_milli at 12/05/2023 at 17:08 UTC

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Apple.

Comment by Grouchy_Command4419 at 12/05/2023 at 19:34 UTC

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Do you mean british apple or american one? Same question with all the examples.

Comment by _modsaregay at 12/05/2023 at 17:45 UTC

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form your mouth as though you were trying to say “aaaaaah” and then without changing the shape of your mouth say “eeeeeee”

Comment by weissbieremulsion at 12/05/2023 at 17:20 UTC

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yeah pronounce it like the a from apple and youll be fine.

Comment by ridingurmomtosunset at 12/05/2023 at 17:18 UTC

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If you pronounce those words like "äpl" and "cänt" then yeah, its the same. If not, then no.

Comment by saschaleib at 12/05/2023 at 17:46 UTC

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In Finnish, 'ä' is the near-open front unrounded vowel ⟨æ⟩. Easy-peasy.

Comment by onlyr6s at 12/05/2023 at 20:05 UTC

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Like A in apple.

Comment by civilconvo at 12/05/2023 at 20:32 UTC

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bäd

Comment by MikkoPerkele at 12/05/2023 at 20:52 UTC

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Kiss my ääs

Comment by Boop_de_doop at 12/05/2023 at 22:29 UTC

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I always tell people that ä is pronounced like the a in cat or attic. Both work with British and American English at least, unlike can't as an example as that works if pronounced in American English but is pronounced different is British English.

Comment by Ok-Butterfly4414 at 12/05/2023 at 23:14 UTC

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Where are you from? For me those two words have the same vowel, [æ]