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The problem is that to me it seems like this stems from a place of hate, specifically towards trans people.
The way they are doing this is clearly incendiary and unhelpful. For people with an actual preference to cis/gay men and women, how would they best label this preference or sexuality?
I don't currently accept a lesbian saying she is not sexually attracted to mtf individuals as being transphobic anymore than I accept me as a happily married cis male saying i am not attracted to men being labeled homophobic.
I don't know enough about the dynamics but it appears as though currently accepted sexual preferences are no longer valid to some people when they include/exclude trans people.
Comment by [deleted] at 12/03/2021 at 20:18 UTC*
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but it appears as though currently accepted sexual preferences are no longer valid to some people when they include/exclude trans people
Nope. The idea this is a wide spread way of thinking is just wrong and the only people spreading it are the ~~ones not wanting to date a trans person~~ trans haters, 4Chan idiots and three trans idiots (and I am not sure if two of them aren't also made up people through 4chan) on Twitter they constantly quote for this. Overwhelmingly: **Trans people do not want anyone to date them who doesn't want to, end of story. ALL trans organisations have said this also loud and clear.**
Also:
They were calling themselves "the SS" literally on the first day, ostensibly unaware that calling themselves the SS and using twin lightening bolts on their "pride flag" was nazi shit.
You can't ignore that. The signs of this being a 4chan made up problem were all there, from the first day the "movement" came into existence.
I have a hard time to understand why so many people fail to understand this or do not want to acknowledge this. Please for your own good learn to spot things like this, it's not hard.
Comment by mwalker784 at 12/03/2021 at 19:32 UTC
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if your preference is to only date cis people, it’s just that—a preference. being attracted to only women is a sexuality, being only attracted to cisgender women is a preference. for example, if i’m only attracted to men, i’m straight. but if i’m only attracted to men with dark hair, i’m straight with a preference. personally, i think a preference should be held between you and people you are trying to date, and i don’t think people need to state their preferences as if it makes them special. if we made a new sexuality every time someone said “i prefer people with blue eyes”, most people would agree that’s ridiculous.
you are correct about the issue with super straights, it is born from transphobia and is incendiary and unhelpful. there is nothing wrong with having a genital preference, the issue is making a *sexuality* on the basis of excluding trans people. being attracted to cisgender people is not a sexuality. a sexuality based on a preference isn’t something we should be comfortable with.
the majority of LGBTQ people agree that genital preferences are fine. the minority of people who think not wanting to date a trans person with their original genitals is transphobic do not represent the majority sentiment. a moderate volume minority of teens on tumblr and twitter should not be considered the views of most people.
there’s also the issue that, as stated, this movement was started by a 4chan neo nazi to spread hate towards trans individuals. not only is the idea itself ridiculous, but it is also harmful ideology spreading to the masses.
Comment by [deleted] at 12/03/2021 at 19:23 UTC
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