created by Arctostaphylos008 on 31/01/2025 at 09:03 UTC*
21 upvotes, 9 top-level comments (showing 9)
https://youtu.be/-YsXKVUOweU?si=4E_TfS9mEQzwinRl
An analysis of the clear dismissal of functional debate/reality that is incentivized at the federal level.
Excerpt:
Sanders - "I asked you a simple question Bobby, studies all over the world say it is not." (Referring to the use of the increasing child vaccine schedule and its relation to nationally increasing autism)
Kennedy - "Senetor, if you show me those studies I will absolutely apologize."
Sanders - "That is a very troubling response."
Makes one think.
Comment by Organic-Ad-6503 at 31/01/2025 at 09:57 UTC*
22 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Must be that $1,953,613 talking on behalf of Bernie.
Comment by stickdog99 at 01/02/2025 at 00:59 UTC*
5 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Sanders - "I asked you a simple question Bobby, studies all over the world say it is not." (Referring to the use of the increasing child vaccine schedule and its relation to nationally increasing autism)
Kennedy - "Senator, if you show me those studies I will absolutely apologize."
Sanders - "That is a very troubling response."
Comment by iya_metanoia at 31/01/2025 at 20:22 UTC
10 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Most of the senators were vicious in their attacks on RFK Jr. The questions they posed could never have been replied to with a simple yes or no answer. There is much nuance around science in general, but the pro-vaccine senators are not interested. Vaccines absolutely do cause autism in some children. There is no one study that will show this, it has be carefully concluded from a range of studies & from lived experience. Proper studies, like basic true vaxxed-unvaxxed ones haven't been done for a variety of nonsensical reasons. The large studies that have been done that purport to show no link were so complex & convoluted by design, the results were meaningless (& fraudulent in some cases). It is very easy for the senators to point to a child that dies from hepatitis & say that child could of been saved if they had an injection. But the reality is they have no way of knowing if that is true. And they conveniently do not at all consider the potential harms that arise from the shot that if manifested some time down the track, virtually no one will link to the shot. Vaccine damage is real, & far more prevalent than most people think. The signs are there, but it takes skill to recognise. What the pro-vaccine people focus on, to the exclusion of everything else, is that the incidence of illnesses like measles & chickenpox have declined so that is a good thing. And it does seem like that's the case, but only on a superficial surface level. They need to think more carefully & broadly on the subject.
Comment by bendbarrel at 31/01/2025 at 21:47 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
All I hear from the left question is RFKjr gonna protect my kick backs!
Comment by caelanhuntress at 02/02/2025 at 07:23 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I never thought I would watch the Republicans become the calm voice of reason, while the Democrats used bad rhetoric to defend bad corporations
Complete reversal from twenty years ago
Comment by Mammoth_Park7184 at 31/01/2025 at 17:15 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateVaccines/comments/1iegn0k/when%5C_rfk%5C_jr%5C_was%5C_presented%5C_with%5C_the%5C_science%5C_on/[1][2]
Comment by Glittering_Cricket38 at 31/01/2025 at 15:25 UTC
2 upvotes, 2 direct replies
I don’t know how anyone can support him after seeing these hearings. Either you are pissed that now he says vaccines like polio and measles are safe (after saying previously that the one thing he would change if he had a Time Machine was to go back and not vaccinate his kids) or you think he is an incompetent power hungry buffoon who should be no where near scientific or medical power (oh wait, I already knew that).
Throughout the Senate HELP (Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions) Committee hearing, Kennedy called for a return to “gold standard science” and said he would support vaccines if shown data backing their safety. But when presented with such data, Kennedy said he wasn’t familiar with it or cited reasons to doubt it.
When Cassidy pointed to a 2014 meta-analysis of 1.2 million children that concluded there is no link between autism and vaccines, Kennedy responded: “You show me those scientific studies, and you and I can meet about it — and there are other studies as well, and I’d love to show those to you.”
Those kinds of remarks seemed to trouble Cassidy, who spoke about a young patient he treated in Louisiana facing liver failure from Hepatitis B, which could have been prevented if the patient had been vaccinated. He also said that two children just died in a Louisiana ICU “from vaccine-preventable diseases.” He said his experiences as a physician convinced him of the importance of vaccines.
“[Can a] 71 year-old-man who spent decades criticizing vaccines, and who’s financially vested in finding fault with vaccines — can he change his attitudes and approach now that he’ll have the most important position influencing vaccine policy in the United States?” Cassidy asked. “I got to figure that out for my vote.”
Comment by Mammoth_Park7184 at 31/01/2025 at 10:25 UTC
-4 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Yeah, RFK Jr. is definitely a head in the sand fellow.
He's seen those studies and chooses to ignore them,
Comment by StopDehumanizing at 31/01/2025 at 18:49 UTC
-3 upvotes, 0 direct replies