https://www.reddit.com/r/Communist/comments/1ige437/any_other_communists_think_the_soviet_union/
created by [deleted] on 03/02/2025 at 02:01 UTC
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as a communist I find out about some of the things that the USSR did and think 'that's not communism' despite how often they would say it.
Comment by doej26 at 03/02/2025 at 02:05 UTC
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Name checks out.
Also we can see that you aren't asking this question in good faith, your previous posts are public.
Comment by CataraquiCommunist at 03/02/2025 at 03:36 UTC
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I’m inclined to agree to an extent, certainly where the development of post war social imperialism is concerned. However, none of it really matters today. What I think is far more important is to move away from historic fetishization, which stagnates our movement, and to focus on what can be done for communism in your country today, tomorrow, and so on. Fixating about the policies of an era of history completely alien to our present times is unhelpful. Their realities and choices positive or negative are not our choices in the present. Our challenges, our development, our industries, our culture are fundamentally different today. So rather than rehashing schismatic arguments about what dead person did what “right” long ago and who earns their “true communist” merit badge, let’s maybe focus on what we can be doing to advance communism, organize, and to build unity and solidarity in the movement today.
Opinions on history are like assholes, everyone has one and no one wants to hear it, unless it’s coming from a comedian. If you’re interested in re-fighting the battles of the past, I recommend you look into SCA or something like that and to avoid counterproductive schismatic fights.
Comment by dermestid_ at 03/02/2025 at 05:06 UTC
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You’re right; the USSR was not communist. It was socialist. Union of Soviet *Socialist* Republics. Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society, which the USSR obviously did not achieve.
Semantics aside. You’re obviously not asking in good faith as another commenter pointed out, but what specific reasons do you have for believing the USSR was not socialist or that its leadership was not communist?
Comment by Adleyboy at 03/02/2025 at 16:07 UTC
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Essentially they tried to jump straight into communism after the country fell apart and were in far too much of a rush to get there and it kind of fell apart because it wasn't handled well and because you can't just do that. It takes time to dismantle the old system before going into a new one. Not to mention the need to prepare the people psychologically after lifetimes of living under one way of doing things and propaganda. China is probably the best example of how to do things well.