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Trevor Noah has a part in his book about that phenomenon that seems too apt- *The traditional man wants a woman to be subservient, but he never falls in love with subservient women. He's attracted to independent women.*
I think part of the appeal is the control aspect/ changing a person to better suit your own needs. fucked up!!
Comment by becca_la at 06/11/2024 at 19:52 UTC
104 upvotes, 3 direct replies
They want us to start out as independent so we won't be dependent on *them*. Men really like the parts of feminism that benefit them directly, like the expectation that women work outside the home and bring in a paycheck to lighten their own financial burden. But then, once they have that independent woman, they see it as a challenge to bend her to his will. Like breaking a horse. I have, unfortunately, seen this behavior in both conservative and liberal men...
Comment by VastStory at 06/11/2024 at 18:57 UTC
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I have a theory that some men want a great woman (who doesn't). But since he can't improve her, he ruins her a little bit instead to show he has an effect at all. Like putting a stupid monument in nature or a tall skyscraper to pierce the skyline.
Comment by Charm1X at 06/11/2024 at 20:31 UTC
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I learned this the hard way with my ex. I was very available and giving towards him, and it lead me to getting cheated on with no prospect of marriage. I genuinely believe he did not like the task of being dependable and responsible.
He wanted to be an independent man with a wife. I’m so glad I came to my senses. I will never make myself available for a man like that again.
Men do not respect femininity. They love masculinity, even in women. Giving men my masculine energy has caused me less grief.
Comment by Keyspam102 at 06/11/2024 at 19:31 UTC
40 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I think it’s the ‘conquering’ of a woman to make her subservient that they get off on, so a more independent woman is a bigger victory
Comment by Impossible-Bee5948 at 06/11/2024 at 20:13 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Oh wow…
ETA: this is so interesting and so true. Did not want “oh wow” to sound dismissive!
Comment by alpacaMyToothbrush at 06/11/2024 at 19:06 UTC
2 upvotes, 1 direct replies
What's the title of the book? I might add to my TBR
Comment by more_pepper_plz at 08/11/2024 at 16:32 UTC
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Yep. A man feels more powerful if he has power over a powerful woman.
Fucking losers.
Comment by UnassumingOstrich at 14/11/2024 at 08:23 UTC
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there’s a certain kind of man who specifically seeks out strong independent women *because it is more fun for them* to bring the strong ones down.