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View submission: Let’s Talk About the February 5th Protests
Yeah unfortunately both here and on Signal, I’m seeing a lot of pushback against anyone voicing concerns.
I really hope the organizers do take the feedback. Much of what I’ve seen (where are the vetted orgs, where are legal observers, are there permits) are about keeping people safe. No one is saying not to protest. We’re saying that a lot of orgs have more or less standardized processes for a reason. (Many even provide trainings on what to do if you’re kettled, arrested, etc. which is a possibility even if you’re not breaking any laws at all.)
I’m glad folks are enthused and want to do something. I hope they look into more established groups like Indivisible, Move On, etc. Many have local chapters and ways to get involved if you’re say, disabled or a caregiver or undocumented and can’t just come out to protest on minimal notice. (I’ve seen people dismiss those factors too and that’s gross. A good org will have actions that anyone can take that keeps them safe.)
Comment by Far-Fold at 03/02/2025 at 20:08 UTC
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It’s supposed to happen in 2 days and they’re still taking ideas on what to wear, it’s not being collaborated on with any main organization, and feels super suspicious like we’re being pushed to go “protest” so someone can do something stupid and declare martial law.
Comment by xConstantGardenerx at 03/02/2025 at 20:24 UTC
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Thank you. We’re trying to warn people because we have seen what can happen when protests are not well-organized with safety and security in mind. It doesn’t help the movement when protestors are jailed, injured or killed.
Comment by HomicideDevil666 at 03/02/2025 at 20:21 UTC
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Thank you so much for recommending indivisible and move on. I've looked into them and I'm reaching out to local groups already.
I'm in the discord for this subreddit and they've got a list of permits for all states that currently have them. They're on the lookout for more permits in other states. Once I'm verified I'll bring up legal observers. Hopefully the mods are receptive. If that doesn't work out, I'll probably just focus more on engaging with the established groups.
Honestly, this is my first time ever engaging politically like this, so I don't really know what to expect, but I know that I have to do *something*.
Comment by mllejacquesnoel at 03/02/2025 at 23:42 UTC
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Ftr I blocked Mud cause low karma new accounts read as either bots or trolls intentionally stirring up shit here. The advice stands.
Comment by [deleted] at 03/02/2025 at 23:03 UTC
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I'm sorry and no offense, but I really don't give a fuck about what "established groups" like Move On have to say. I don't really care about a bunch of libs who are professional "activists". They can join, great, but these groups don't have the courage to do anything substantial, which is why we are here in the first place.
We don't need the same group of liberal professional class "activists" incorrectly policing protests and telling everyone they're wrong for not following the state mandated "protest" rules.
It's time we moved from these "professional" activists who run away anytime shit gets real, whose real job is to keep the status quo in a way that serves the ruling class ideology.