Re: Italian Translation


Stephane Bortzmeyer <stephane@sources.org> writes:

> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 09:03:33AM +0200,
>  Omar Polo <op@omarpolo.com> wrote 
>  a message of 8 lines which said:
>
>> > lupa=> SELECT url FROM Urls WHERE lang = 'it';
>> 
>> and with lang = 'it-IT' there's also gemini.iosa.it, managed by steko,
>> probably the first Italian capsule :)
>
> Yes, a case of over-specification: unless the italian used on this
> capsule is really specific to Italy, there is no need to over-tag. To
> quote RFC 5646:
>
>   1.  Use as precise a tag as possible, but no more specific than is
>        justified.  Avoid using subtags that are not important for
>        distinguishing content in an application.
>
>        *  For example, 'de' might suffice for tagging an email written
>           in German, while "de-CH-1996" is probably unnecessarily
>           precise for such a task.
>
> => gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/rfc-mirror/rfc5646.txt RFC 5646 on language tags

That's actually a good point, and thanks for the RFC reference!  I admit
I've never read it, but happy to have guessed right :)

Anyway, I assume most people picked up it-IT without knowing about RFC
5646 and as a translation of the (I think) more common en-US (and maybe
also due to how the $LANG variable is usually set up on the unices).
Maybe it's worth to drop a line or two in the best practice about this?

Cheers,

> lupa=> SELECT url FROM Urls WHERE lang = 'it' OR lang LIKE 'it-%';
>                                     url                                     
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/documentazione/
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/pillole-di-emacs-001/
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/gmid-sandbox.gmi
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/pillole-di-emacs-004/
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/2021-01-01-diario.gmi
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/client-certs-con-gmid.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/documentazione/introduzione.gmi
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/passare-file-descriptor-tra-processi.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/archeologia-gemini.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/paura-guidare.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/2021-01-09-gemini-italiano.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/2021-01-04-ipv6.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/2021-01-01-pci-archaeology.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/2020-12-30-gemini-iosa.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/2020-12-31-agate-setup.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/atom.xml
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/sollievo.gmi
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/idk/index.gmi
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/cucina/index.gmi
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/guide/index.gmi
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/cose-dall-ultima-volta-00/
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/gemlog/index.gmi
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/cucina/impasto_panepizza_1.gmi
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/gemlog/2021-03-12.gmi
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/cose-dall-ultima-volta-01/
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/guide/aerozine_buster.gmi
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/gemlog/2021-03-13.gmi
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/gemlog/2021-03-17.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/libri-2020.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/black-history-month.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/astronomia.gmi
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/index.gmi
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/gmid-ricaricare-configurazione.gmi
>  gemini://head.baselab.org/cucina/biscotti_facili_1.gmi
>  gemini://gemini-italia.europecom.net/
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/pillole-di-emacs-002/
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/pillole-di-emacs-003/
>  gemini://it.omarpolo.com/articoli/pillole-di-emacs-005/
>  gemini://gemini.iosa.it/gemlog/bicicletta.gmi
> (43 rows)
>
> (The difference seems to indicate that many people do not tag wisely.)

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