On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 04:44:06PM +0100, Solderpunk wrote: >I quite agree with this perspective. The biggest drawback to using Atom >as the standard way to subscribe to serial content on Gemini is not the >difficulty of parsing, but that it requires the authors of such content >to generate the feed file. I thought this could be addressed with good >tooling, such as my gemfeed program, but real world experience in >helping people use it, and using it myself, has proven this is not >actually straightforward. It is true that authors generally have to run a program to generate an RSS/ATOM feed, but how is this different from self-hosting Spacewalk? Either way, if you want to own your feed, you'll have to run a command. The difference seems to be that the former (plain RSS/ATOM) takes the static-site-gen route while the latter (Spacewalk & co.) takes the route of dynamically-generated content. The merits and use-cases for static and dynamic sites is a slightly different discussion that's been going on for decades. >If somebody wants to use such a tool, more power to them, but ideally >one should be able to manage a capsule entirely by hand with nothing >more than a standard text editor if that's what one wants to do, and >still participate in Geminispace as a first class citizen. Atom feeds >don't fit well with this ideal. I agree, but I don't think this means that we should move away from Atom feeds. I think that exposing an Atom feed (or newsletter) to let users get new posts sent to them and saved offline is a bit different than having a Gemini service run by someone else aggregate links. The two can co-exist without competing. That being said, I find the new proposals interesting. I'm more than willing to revise my statements if they prove to be better. But having a single program (my RSS/Atom reader) from which to get updates from all the *logs I follow is something I hope doesn't go away. It's the main reason why I use Sloum's bombadillo as my main client, since it mostly eliminates the need to juggle multiple clients for multiple protocols. TLDR: the new alternatives to RSS/Atom are nice, and I hope they succeed without making me use more than one client for browsing and one client for fetching updates across the text-based Internet. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 902 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20201119/ceca c775/attachment.sig>
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