Yeah, I think what we need is a system with using sandboxed WASI with some kind of file based GUI API. Apps would be run in a sandbox with a temporary folder and a size limited persistent folder. I think the name Gravity Runtime is good. On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 2:51 PM Dave Gauer <dave at ratfactor.com> wrote: > On 8/14/20 4:59 AM, /dev/urandom wrote: > > I was thinking about an idea similar to Gemini that could work as a > > protocol for not just websites, but also simple and functional web > > applications as well that could, to a reasonable extent, look and work > > well on lots of different devices (desktops, smartphones, feature > > phones, text-mode interfaces). > > > Gemini has hard conceptual/technical boundaries which make it pretty > unsuitable for building general purpose applications. And that is, of > course, on purpose. > > I've thought for years that browsers should have entirely separate modes > of operation: one presents content and the other is an application > client. The user would have strict control over which mode was being > used, so I could say that reddit.com can only do "displaying content" > things, but gmail.com can do "application" things. > > But I like even more the idea of having separate clients (and protocols) > for these purposes. > > I feel like Gemini "solves" the content mode. > > We still need the application mode. Universal distributed applications > are incredibly useful and cool (and that use of the Web keeps me > employed). But the Web _sucks_ for making applications. > > So, if I were to build the "Gemini of applications", I think I would > take a hard look at two things: > > * WASM for execution > * Existing UI languages for layout > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAssembly > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_user_interface_markup_languages > > I like your abstract input examples. The client should be able to > determine the best way to present this to the user. Entering a date on > a desktop computer should not use the same UI as a touchscreen kiosk or > a voice-activated home assistant! Nor should the application developer > need to create these UIs from scratch each and every time. > > Hmm, now we just need a good name for a "Gemini of applications"... > > :-) > > > > 2. Continuous connections > > 3. Append mode > > #3 is intriguing. I suppose it's to allow the server to respond with > messages such as "I didn't understand 'asdfklj' as a date!" or provide > interactive feedback, such as a session with an Eliza-like chatbot or > > -Dave > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20200821/85a7 00dc/attachment-0001.htm>
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