2008-01-08 Forums Go Bonkers

With the built-in delay to the {OGL Open Gaming License} for D&D 4th ed. and the USD 5000 price tag on the license to publish close to Wizards of the Coast they are trying to make sure that only big names participate at the beginning, hoping that big budget = big names = better quality. Interesting times! šŸ˜„

You must have seen it online if youā€™re a regular reader of any D&D related forum: D&D 4th Edition System Reference Document and OGL Designerā€™s Kit. Here, {WotC Wizards of the Coast}, have some pagerank!

D&D 4th Edition System Reference Document and OGL Designerā€™s Kit

Iā€™m sure if you look at the forums youā€™ll see them going bonkers all over the place. I looked at the OpenDesign thread To 4E or not to 4E? and I expect EN World to have more info as well. Check it out: WotC announces plans for 4e SRD and OGL.

OpenDesign

To 4E or not to 4E?

EN World

WotC announces plans for 4e SRD and OGL

Ok, since this post only points out the obvious, it must qualify as most useless post of 2008 for the time being. Maybe Iā€™ll add some thoughts of my own tomorrow.

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Interesting times, indeed. The thing is, Iā€™m still none the wiser whatā€™s going to be *in* the 4th Edition SRD. It sounds to me like thereā€™s going to be guidelines and page references back to the Playerā€™s Handbook, and not much else. Unless Iā€™m reading it wrong, or it changes, or whatever.

Thatā€™s not to knock it though; there was a genuine concern that WoTC could close the entire system off with 4th Edition meaning other companies were screwed when it came to creating variant rules books. Itā€™s good to see thatā€™s not going to happen, and I like that theyā€™re taking control of who gets first pick; one thing lacking from the 3rd Edition version of the SRD/OGL was any kind of quality control. It looks like thatā€™s in place here.

Iā€™m very, very excited about Necromancer Gamesā€™ plans for 4th Edition; thatā€™s one thing which might enourage me to switch.

Oh, and the news about a revised d20 Modern in 2009 is terrific!

Happy New Year too, Alex šŸ˜„

ā€“ greywulf 2008-01-09 10:08 UTC

greywulf

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Well, ENWorld doesnā€™t seem to be going that bonkers over it, especially compared to the row over the feat called Golden Wyvern Adept and the inclusion of dragonborn as a PC race :p

I would be personally disappointed if the new SRD isnā€™t like the current one, i.e., that there is an online-accessible version with the core rules to play the game. I rely heavily on d20srd.org right now and would hate to see a resource like that disappear. However, the openness of the SRD/OGL for 3.x was a pretty amazing thing, unlike any other previous incarnation of D&D, so I canā€™t blame them if they want to reassert some control and, at the same time, make it necessary to at least own the PHB.

ā€“ Adrian 2008-01-09 10:43 UTC

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I guess Iā€™m mostly intrigued by the similarities between Software and D&D rules. The kind of early buy-in giving you a head-start is an interesting idea. Iā€™m undecided: One the one hand, I have socialist tendencies, and this blatant encouragement of a division into big players and small players ā€“ argh... I just canā€™t say ā€œYes!ā€ to it. On the other hand I totally understand they want to build some kind of filter to encourage quality third party products. Their solution is simple and will probably deliver with a good enough degree of confidence. Having to submit products to censors would be far worse, obviously. Iā€™m also enjoying the copyright and patent talk. Dual-licensing the old SRD. The ā€œOpenā€ Gaming License transforming into something a bit less open by apparently incorporating d20 License issues (that nobody is allowed to talk about). Anyway, thatā€™s the intriguing part.

Iā€™m guessing the 4th ed SRD will contain the same amount of rules as the current version. The rules will not be written for the table, however. Thus, making something like d20srd.org useful for a gaming table will be much harder. Thatā€™s what they want the DI to be, after all. Youā€™ll have to rewrite it. For people who like paper in their hands, no big loss. For some online players, itā€™s going to be a bummer or the DI membership. (And Iā€™m not prepared to pay $10 to $15 a month for a D&D gaming service.)

As for the player handbook requirement, Iā€™m hoping that it will basically just require the appropriate sentence somewhere prominent: This requires the ownership of the 4th ed. Playersā€™s Handbook or something along these lines.

ā€“ Alex Schroeder 2008-01-09 10:46 UTC

Alex Schroeder

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Well, you are supposed to receive a digital copy for a nominal fee ($2-3) when you purchase the hardcover book. This does not require DDI, and if the PDF is properly assembled, it would have some of the functionality of, say, d20srd.org, though PDFs are never as good in my experience.

My biggest concern is the fact that the 4E OGL appears to preclude books like *Arcana Evolved* and *Iron Heroes*. That is not to say that the 4E mechanics would even be compatible or desirable with AE or IH, but the little information available suggests that you canā€™t publish a 4E variant PHB, for example.

ā€“ Adrian 2008-01-10 17:16 UTC