I find that I hardly enjoy the conversation on the EmacsChannel anymore. There’s five people on my ignore list at work. There was nobody on my ignore list at home but now there is. 🙁
A few days ago I wrote about the dilemma of operators that use an IgnoreList on Community Wiki.
Looking back on my Emacs history, I realize how I started out reading EmacsNewsgroups (searching for my name on Google Groups [Groups:&as_uauthors=alex+schroeder] shows 1,240 matches...) to reading emacs-devel (on of the EmacsMailingLists), to IRC and EmacsWiki...
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That’s the problem with the net. The more it becomes social, the more it becomes anti-social. Just like life, I guess 😄
– GreyWulf 2006-09-27 00:25 UTC
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I agree about the conversation on [EmacsChannel #emacs]. Am I right in thinking that this is a feeling shared by many of the people who used to be regulars on the channel when I first started lurking there but who no longer speak much ? As you pointed out `/ignore` doesn’t address the problem, but I don’t see how anything can be done without a definite ’code of conduct’. You have to be an egomaniac to survive in places like `debian-devel`.
– AlokSingh 2006-09-27 06:58 UTC
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Well, I talked to at least one other op who barely hangs out on #emacs anymore. I’m not sure a ’code of conduct’ would help – this would assuming these people violate the unspoken code of conduct based on common sense (as we do during our daily lives) out of ignorance. Writing down these rules would help if the set of rules were a complete description of acceptable behaviour, in that case. But it would turn off almost everybody else. At least I’d see it as an insult to my intelligence. And think about it: Where in real life do you have such a thing? Not in my family, not amongst my friends, not at university, not at work. There was a primitive code at school, but it relied on persons of authority to work: Teachers, principals, and parents. And if we raise operators to the level of teachers and lower ordinary channel members to the level of students, that also insults the intelligence of many people on the channel.
There are two ways out, I think:
1. Split it up into smaller groups again. Join me on `#emacs-fu`. ;)
2. Use irrational means, in the sense of PoeticReasoning. Read the crap, be angry, kick people who you find annoying, without bothering much with explanations. A simple “wash your mouth” or “have some respect” would be enough. Having no written rules makes it hard to game such a system.
The channel has lost it’s spark. No longer the fun conversations happen. I feel sad 🙁
– AadityaSood 2006-09-27 12:42 UTC
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I like the irrational idea 😄. And you’ll see me on `#emacs-fu`.
– AlokSingh 2006-09-27 13:36 UTC